Network X interviews Jay Weidner
Santa Barbara, California January 2004
Network X: Wasnt he was on your show many
times during that time period?
Jay Weidner: Yes, he was a favorite of the listeners
and mine. Even though I knew all of these things about
alchemy and the Cross at Hendaye I still didnt have
enough information to get anyone really interested in helping
me financially. I had decided to devote my life to the
quest of understanding the Fulcanelli/Hendaye puzzle and
was frankly looking for help.
By early 1995, I had decided to concentrate completely
on the Latin inscription that was engraved in the top of
the cross, which reads:
I wrote out the inscription on a piece of paper
and carried it with me all of the time. I also carried
with me a copy
of Fulcanellis description of the Latin inscription.
One can read about this in my 2 books but needless to say
I had decided to break the code of the inscription. For
many months I lay the paper with inscription out in front
of me and would just stare at it. I found out a lot of
other ways to reword and rephrase the inscription. Some
made more sense than others. This process is all laid out
in the books. One day though, while waiting in my car for
someone, I laid out the page on the seat and I let my eyes
go out of focus as I looked at the words. I remembered
Fulcanellis description that the phrase is describing
a place of refuge and we learn that a county exists,
where death cannot reach man at the terrible time of the
I suddenly realized that the letter X in
the word Ocruxaves lay at the center of the inscription.
I decided to make the X the representation
of the Cross it self. When I did that it created four separate
words surrounding the central X:
OCRU X AVES
Following Fulcanellis prescription, I made the X a S and
now with a subtle change in letters I had an inscription
instead of saying:
was now saying:
Inca Cave Cusco Peru.
Stunned by this discovery and remembering that
Fulcanelli says that the inscription describes a country
my heart pounded in my ears. Realizing that this was probably
not a coincidence or some kind of fantasy I began going
over the inscription changing and altering it in
any way that I could. One of the very first things that
I discovered in this exercise was that by displacing the S in
the top line of the inscription I made the word:
When I did this I also came up with a secondary message
that actually enforced the first message. Reading backwards
and reading the rest of the letters backwards I got:
or to complete the sentence:
HAIL TO THE CROSS AT URCOS
Not knowing what Urcos meant I looked
it up the words in an Atlas and found that 20 miles away
Cusco was a town called Urcos.
Now I was blown away. Besides beginning to read everything
I could on the history of Peru I now had something that
would allow me to show that the research had actually accomplished
something. I placed my breakdown of the Latin inscription
out on some large pieces of cardboard to use for demonstrations
and began looking for some help in the investigation.
But before I go on with my story, I must tell you that
one of the very first things I discovered when I looked
into the history of Peru was the 16th century
book, Chronicle of Felipe Guamen Poma de Ayala.
In the book I discovered the drawing by Ayala, which shows
the symbols of the cross at Hendaye in ancient Peru. The
evidence was now building that the Cross at Hendaye and
the writings of Fulcanelli were anything but unimportant.
With renewed interest I plunged into The Mystery of
the Cathedrals again looking for more secrets.
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